A remarkable conversation among South African and American women about race, class, gender and the challenge of building an egalitarian nation out of the remnants of one of the most unequal societies in the world - Apartheid era South Africa. A journalistic format reflects a commitment to expand access to as wide an audience as possible, itself a democratic impulse, and to open a window onto the complex process of change itself. At once both social and deeply personal, as well as intensely political.